You're absolutely correct on both of those first two items and guys needing to touch grass...and then eventually, hopefully, dear God, someone willing of the opposite sex. I have a lot of sympathy for young guys who struggle with the opposite sex, as I was once one of them before I stumbled into my first relationship around 19 years old. It's hard! It's scary! These dudes would be better served getting a hobby, a haircut, and a gym membership than an AI girlfriend. I'm no fan of Jordan Peterson, but one thing that he does preach to guys like this is that you have to make yourself into someone that someone else would find attractive, but unfortunately a shit ton of these guys take that to mean "pseudo alpha male" instead of just a slightly more attractive person of their actually self.
The Dimension 20 thing is a good example of just how silo'ed pop culture has become. I'm a dork and listen to D20 from time to time, so this is in no way shocking to me, but some times you still get folks who are like, "Oh, you like D&D? That obscure nerd game?" And this swings the other way as well. I train at a BJJ gym in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and some local kid who looked like a younger Paul brother came in with a film crew to film something, and I'm sitting here like, oh, how lame, another kid grasping at internet fame. Turns out, this guy has 2.5 million followers on IG and like 5 million on YT! And I have literally never heard of him.
I’ve long had a theory that a lot of the manosphere/whatever you want to call it has its roots in the fact that lots of young men experience lots of distress over their inability (real or perceived) to meet women and its very hard to find good advice on this that actually takes their problems seriously.
Of course it all goes sour quite quickly, but I think the bait is something like “hey, we’re giving you actionable tips on this stuff and not belittling you for having feelings about it.”
This is less true than in the 2000s-2010s, but the guys you're talking about won't always hear useful advice like go to the gym because if you go online for it you'll hear progressive bad advice as much as rightist bad advice. Sort of like reverse incel propaganda, like claiming women don't care how you look and never have impure thoughts or individual sexual preferences.
I would be very interested in seeing the progressives who claim women don't care about looks or have impure thoughts. I am not familiar with this brand.
I think it's part people who were only ever in one relationship and part the kind of early-millennial liberal politics who thought "just be nice to people" was the right advice in every possible situation.
As usual I actually sort of see where Elon's decisions about spam are coming from. The pay for post model does work to prevent spam for some sites (SomethingAwful is the famous one). It is worth it for crypto/scam spammers to still evade but they have to give up more account info to do it, and that's more info you can use to ban them.
Of course where old Twitter would never actually execute on policies due to indecision, new Twitter won't execute on them because the bots are Elon's crypto fans or state-sponsored botnets for authoritarian governments he owes favors to or he's not willing to just wordfilter nudes in bio or whatever.
Two things:
You're absolutely correct on both of those first two items and guys needing to touch grass...and then eventually, hopefully, dear God, someone willing of the opposite sex. I have a lot of sympathy for young guys who struggle with the opposite sex, as I was once one of them before I stumbled into my first relationship around 19 years old. It's hard! It's scary! These dudes would be better served getting a hobby, a haircut, and a gym membership than an AI girlfriend. I'm no fan of Jordan Peterson, but one thing that he does preach to guys like this is that you have to make yourself into someone that someone else would find attractive, but unfortunately a shit ton of these guys take that to mean "pseudo alpha male" instead of just a slightly more attractive person of their actually self.
The Dimension 20 thing is a good example of just how silo'ed pop culture has become. I'm a dork and listen to D20 from time to time, so this is in no way shocking to me, but some times you still get folks who are like, "Oh, you like D&D? That obscure nerd game?" And this swings the other way as well. I train at a BJJ gym in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and some local kid who looked like a younger Paul brother came in with a film crew to film something, and I'm sitting here like, oh, how lame, another kid grasping at internet fame. Turns out, this guy has 2.5 million followers on IG and like 5 million on YT! And I have literally never heard of him.
I’ve long had a theory that a lot of the manosphere/whatever you want to call it has its roots in the fact that lots of young men experience lots of distress over their inability (real or perceived) to meet women and its very hard to find good advice on this that actually takes their problems seriously.
Of course it all goes sour quite quickly, but I think the bait is something like “hey, we’re giving you actionable tips on this stuff and not belittling you for having feelings about it.”
This is less true than in the 2000s-2010s, but the guys you're talking about won't always hear useful advice like go to the gym because if you go online for it you'll hear progressive bad advice as much as rightist bad advice. Sort of like reverse incel propaganda, like claiming women don't care how you look and never have impure thoughts or individual sexual preferences.
I would be very interested in seeing the progressives who claim women don't care about looks or have impure thoughts. I am not familiar with this brand.
Some discussion here: https://x.com/cartoonshateher/status/1780595001925554628?s=46
I think it's part people who were only ever in one relationship and part the kind of early-millennial liberal politics who thought "just be nice to people" was the right advice in every possible situation.
As usual I actually sort of see where Elon's decisions about spam are coming from. The pay for post model does work to prevent spam for some sites (SomethingAwful is the famous one). It is worth it for crypto/scam spammers to still evade but they have to give up more account info to do it, and that's more info you can use to ban them.
Of course where old Twitter would never actually execute on policies due to indecision, new Twitter won't execute on them because the bots are Elon's crypto fans or state-sponsored botnets for authoritarian governments he owes favors to or he's not willing to just wordfilter nudes in bio or whatever.