I would like more evidence on the causal relationship between internet culture and the election result, especially compared to more factual stuff like inflation and immigration.
Related to your point about not "...vocally breaking from the unpopular progressive position", Harris didn't want to give her position on Prop 36 in Cali which passed with about 70% of the vote.
The idea of things not being allowed to be "apolitical" is hurting the progressives a bit here. While there are many explicitly right-wing political shows Rogan doesn't claim to be one of them. There are no shortage of comedians with more left-wing views. Several even have TV shows all about them.
The demand that a non-politics show be explicitly about support for certain topics is going to be tough if you really want to mirror a Rogan figure.
I was surprised to not see gender mentioned in the post at all. Harris did go on Call Her Daddy which is also a large podcast than is not about politics. Trump seemed to target the podcasts with a heavily young male audience in order to try to win those voters and Harris(and democrats more broadly) seemed hesitant to compete there.
People on the left could get scoldy about woke stuff back in the day, when it was called "political correctness", but it was nothing compared to the Christian conservatives at the time, who would get scoldy at the drop of a hat.
Speaking of: what happened to the Christian conservatives? Not that I miss them, but I feel like they were everywhere once. The ones still around are 1000% behind Trump, but I feel like I never hear about Christian topics in "the discourse" anymore. Have we just gotten that secular?
It is crazy to me how within my lifetime we've gone from the right being the No Fun Party to the left being the No Fun Party (and I'm not THAT old!). You'd think eventually politicians would realize that you're fighting an uphill battle if you're going to play the role of the scold.
I think another good example of this was the failure of Breadtube to hold itself together. For a while, people in that sphere were putting out really popular progressive-to-leftist content that appealed to young people, they held a lot of the top Patreon spots, and some, like Natalie Wynn, were being interviewed by normies like Ezra Klein as future thought leaders of the Left, as people who could speak to and deradicalize the alt-right.
Then the community fell apart due to leftist purity politics devolving into toxicity and infighting, the content well dried up because of production quality spinning out of control, and the whole thing died. But at the peak in early 2019, Breadtube was big enough that they managed to get a newly-elected AOC to join in their charity streams.
As a sidenote: I'm hoping at least a few of you get the 'shun the nonbeliever' reference or I'm going to feel very old
CANDY MOUNTAIN, CHARLIE!
I would like more evidence on the causal relationship between internet culture and the election result, especially compared to more factual stuff like inflation and immigration.
Related to your point about not "...vocally breaking from the unpopular progressive position", Harris didn't want to give her position on Prop 36 in Cali which passed with about 70% of the vote.
The idea of things not being allowed to be "apolitical" is hurting the progressives a bit here. While there are many explicitly right-wing political shows Rogan doesn't claim to be one of them. There are no shortage of comedians with more left-wing views. Several even have TV shows all about them.
The demand that a non-politics show be explicitly about support for certain topics is going to be tough if you really want to mirror a Rogan figure.
I was surprised to not see gender mentioned in the post at all. Harris did go on Call Her Daddy which is also a large podcast than is not about politics. Trump seemed to target the podcasts with a heavily young male audience in order to try to win those voters and Harris(and democrats more broadly) seemed hesitant to compete there.
I thought about getting into this, but decided the gender aspect might be worthy of its own post. Stay tuned!
People on the left could get scoldy about woke stuff back in the day, when it was called "political correctness", but it was nothing compared to the Christian conservatives at the time, who would get scoldy at the drop of a hat.
Speaking of: what happened to the Christian conservatives? Not that I miss them, but I feel like they were everywhere once. The ones still around are 1000% behind Trump, but I feel like I never hear about Christian topics in "the discourse" anymore. Have we just gotten that secular?
It is crazy to me how within my lifetime we've gone from the right being the No Fun Party to the left being the No Fun Party (and I'm not THAT old!). You'd think eventually politicians would realize that you're fighting an uphill battle if you're going to play the role of the scold.
Dems need to kick the lefty scolds out of the party!
Haha, yeah that's usually the response.
I think another good example of this was the failure of Breadtube to hold itself together. For a while, people in that sphere were putting out really popular progressive-to-leftist content that appealed to young people, they held a lot of the top Patreon spots, and some, like Natalie Wynn, were being interviewed by normies like Ezra Klein as future thought leaders of the Left, as people who could speak to and deradicalize the alt-right.
Then the community fell apart due to leftist purity politics devolving into toxicity and infighting, the content well dried up because of production quality spinning out of control, and the whole thing died. But at the peak in early 2019, Breadtube was big enough that they managed to get a newly-elected AOC to join in their charity streams.