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Ransom Cozzillio's avatar

The bit here about ignoring what's in front of your face in favor a "juicier" or more conspiratorial thing brings me directly to the Epstein thing with Trump.

It has been driving me insane that potential documents could implicate Trump and that they might exist but are being kept secret is HUGE DEAL.

I'm not saying it isn't. But like, if someone at DOJ or FBI leaked a document to the NYT showing Trump on Epstein "flight logs" is would be an enormous thing.

Except...the fact that Trump flew with Epstein, partied with Epstein, was friends with Epstein, attended, let's say, "women focused events" with Epstein... HAS BEEN PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, ACKNOWLEDGED BY TRUMP HIMSELF FOR MULTIPLE DECADES!

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Lorna MacGillivray's avatar

They just need to follow the money. The money flowed to Epstein from other peoole. The banks flagged unusual transactions, starting all this. So why not track every transactions back to source and see what "products" the money bought - and who bought them?

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Shawn Ruby's avatar

They just go after who they think they can get. They don't really care about that.

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Patrick Rizzuto's avatar

Exactly. They are too scared to go after actual Nazis, but they know Sydney Sweeney isn’t going to disappear them or go after their families, and they still get to delude themselves into thinking they are “resisting”.

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Shawn Ruby's avatar

No, they’re just like rw trolls. They just make uncomfortable who they can and try to do internet activism.

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Michael Bonitati's avatar

I think there’s a missing piece on the out and open Nazi analysis here. I’m reminded of focus groups straight up not believing Romney’s policy proposals were real when presented with them because of how regressive they were. It’s basically the inverse of the Sydney Sweeney conspiracy line. There’s a desire to believe there’s no way these people are truly openly espousing Nazi beliefs, whoever is relaying that must be lying or spinning it.

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Trace's avatar
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I know very little about Sweeney- I highly doubt she went into this with any understanding of this kind of thing going on around her- but my understanding is that the Groyper Right *has* been trying to frame her specifically as their Republican Aryan Sex Goddess ideal for a while, holding her up as the traditional example of Beauty (white, blond and... buxom*) that the Left is trying to take from you with their "women of color" or their "highlighting of non-traditionally beautiful women". As far as I can tell, she's also been a lot more quiet and apolitical than other young female celebrities who are more openly Center-Left, like Taylor Swift or Sabrina Carpenter. This lets them project their politics onto her, or for people on the Left to see the abscence of Center-Left politics as evidence of Right-wing politics.

With that context, and with how everyone seems to be bending over backward to appeal to Trump and his goons, I can understand why people might be jumping at shadows. But if I were Sweeney's PR person, I would have highly recommended that she have stayed far away from this sort of thing.

*Strange how the Republican party of my youth would have been scandalized by her appearance but their moral degeneration has led them to "AWOOGA = good".

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PhillyT's avatar

You are absolutely on to something. They tried to claim Taylor Swift was an Aryan goddess for like a decade. The far right wants to be the popular culture so bad, so they keep trying to do the same thing over and over.

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Dorota Talalay's avatar

Everyone: Nice, they’re talking about her huge boobs

Intellectuals on Twitter: OH MY GOD IT’S ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACY

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PhillyT's avatar

Ever since the social justice warriors from Tumblr made their presence felt on Twitter, it has made most of us worse off and gives the right free ammunition. It just makes us all look dumb, we don't need to make up conspiracies when there are actual issues in front of us and examples for sure.

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Quality Control's avatar

Thank you for this. Both the criticism of the Sydney Sweeney reach and the scarry 1488 stuff coming from our own federal government. The fact that the people putting that stuff out there are getting paid with our tax dollars to do so should enrage us all and should be front page news but alas. 100% spot on.

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gz's avatar

You’re obviously right about which is more dangerous to the country but the leftists are also right about which is more dangerous to their world view.

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Freddie deBoer's avatar

There is something so weird and modern here - the need to hunt for hidden symbolism when they're just saying it out loud.... There is something so comprehensively pathological about our discourse

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Phong Le's avatar

The entire ‘controversy’ is part of the marketing campaign.

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Blurtings and Blatherings's avatar

Wait! Are you saying someone is being called a Nazi--who ISN'T A NAZI?!!

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Remilia Pasinski's avatar

People literally did call out the DHS tweet on twitter. People don't care, Nazi tweets by this administration is nothing new.

The American Eagle ad is a bit fashy and that is somewhat new. A corporation feeling safe pandering to Nazis is much more worrisome than the same coming from the government (as sad as that is).

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cowboykiller's avatar

There is nothing "fashy" about making a pun with the word genes because an actress has a genetic predisposition to stereotypically attractive female traits. Democrats can't be the party of science if they keep pretending like genetics aren't real.

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Tron's avatar

I don’t know, man. Isn’t Sydney Sweeney from Idaho or some shit like that? Lot of Nazis in that part of the country.

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PhillyT's avatar

I hope this is sarcastic lol. She's originally from Washington I believe. And American Eagle as a company I believe is majority owned by a Jewish family. I highly doubt this ad was purposefully made to have racial undertones. A bad pun is all these people have going for it. And it seems like manufactured outrage for clicks.

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